The Spin makes me Dizzy

Ever since Tuesday's special elections, representatives of all 3 involved parties- Republican, democrat, and whatever the fuck Doug Hoffman is, have been all over the TV pitching their version of what it all means. Mostly it boils down to "this is a big win for my side" and/or "what a crushing defeat for the other side."




So who can give us the stupidest spin?

I gotta think Erick Erickson has a pretty good shot at being stupidest.

In NY-23, Conservatives Win

Posted by Erick Erickson

Hold on, here we go! Keep your arms and legs inside the car until the spinning has come to stop.

The race has now been called for Democrat Bill Owens.

This is a huge win for conservatives.

“Whaaaa. . . ?” you say.

Damn! that is what I say! How'd he know that?

There are two big victories at work in New York’s 23rd Congressional District.

Okay, obviously one big win was Democrat Bill Owens. what's the other one?

First, the GOP now must recognize it will either lose without conservatives or will win with conservatives.

No, first was Bill Owens. But please do go on.

First, the GOP now must recognize it will either lose without conservatives or will win with conservatives. In 2008, many conservatives sat home instead of voting for John McCain. Now, in NY-23, conservatives rallied and destroyed the Republican candidate the establishment chose.One might say that the folks you call "conservatives" might have learned that the can either lose on their own, or win with an "establishment" candidate, but that would presume that you have the ability to learn.

And whom do you consider "conservative" anyway? Dede Scozzafava was endorsed by John Boehner and Newt Gingrich! What is anyone to the left of Ron Paul a gay communist tree-hugger? Although, Ron Paul opposed the war, so I guess he wouldn't pass the test either. Hmm. . .who exactly is your constituency? Do you really think there are enough lunatic tea-baggers to win an election? Oh, shit! That is what you think, isn't it? Oh, um, you're totally right, Erick. Yeah, you should totally keep insisting that the republicans field Palin-approved tea party type candidates! Yeah, that's the winningest strategy ever!

I have said all along that the goal of activists must be to defeat Scozzafava. Doug Hoffman winning would just be gravy.

Really?!
The main goal is to defeat the candidate whose positions are pretty close to yours, and if you end up handing the race over to your political enemies, that's just fine with you? Really? Do you know how stupid that is?

A Hoffman win is not in the cards, but we did exactly what we set out to do — crush the establishment backed GOP candidate.

And make no mistake, despite the Beltway spin, we know for certain based on statements from the local Republican parties, that they chose Scozzafava based on advice from the Washington crowd.

Ok, first of all, crushing the Republican nominee, that's the job of the democratic candidate, why are you doing his job for him?

And i think the advice from "the Washington crowd" was probably to pick a candidate who could win, something your guy was seemingly incapable of.

Were we to combine Scozzafava and Hoffman’s votes, Hoffman would have won.

Yes, and if you were to combine all the runs the Phillies scored with all of the Eagles' touchdowns, Philadelphia would have won the World Series!

Secondly, and just as importantly, there has all of a sudden been a huge movement among some activists to go the third party route. We see in NY-23 that this is not possible as third parties are not viable.

That's your second "Big Victory"? finding out something which has been conventional wisdom for the last century or so? How is that a victory? You managed to lose one of the most conservative districts in New York State, and you learned something about why you lost. Wow! way to set that bar high! You forgot to count not falling down any open manholes as a victory! Oh, and Doug Hoffman didn't contract any deadly diseases during the campaign! Victory!!! And your guy lost, and your opponent won. Victory!!!! You know, there's no shame in admitting defeat. You say "we gave it our best shot, but we lost. We'll do better next time!" and you leave with your head held high. But no, you sound like Pee Wee Herman after he crashed his bike; "I meant to do that!"




For all intents and purposes, NY-23 is a trial run for Florida. And in Florida, the conservative candidate is operating inside the GOP. If John Cornyn and the NRSC do not want to see Florida go the way of NY-23, they better stand down.

Right, this one doesn't really count. You really just care about Florida.
And you have a problem with John Cornyn? I thought only sane people had a problem with John Cornyn!
Here's a little idea of what John Cornyn is all about, courtesy of Conservapedia:

John Cornyn (born 1952) is a Republican United States Senator who has represented Texas since 2002. In 2006, National Journal ranked Cornyn as the fourth most conservative Senator. [1] He also received a 100% rating from the Christian Coalition and from the National Right to Life Council. [2]

So, John Cornyn isn't ideologically pure enough for the Erick Erickson wing of the lunatic fringe? You guys are going to blow Florida too, aren't you? Yeah, keep it up Erick!

Top Ten Worst Mafia Nicknames

Mario Conti

aka "Mary the prison Bitch"

Santo DeLuca
aka "Sassypants Sammy"

Rocco Marino

aka "Rocky the Diva"

Louie "the informant" Rossi

James Barbosa
aka "Jimmy Tiny Gun"

Eduardo Lombardi
aka "Eddie the Retard"

Francesco Moretti
aka "Frankie the Twat"

Alberto Russo
aka "Grumpy-puss Al"

Dante Mancini
aka "remarkably-light-on-his-feet-for-such-a-large-man Danny"


Micheal Mancuso
aka "Hysterectomy Mick"

Better Have The Pony Take A Look At It.

from Tumblfrog

Check This Out.

When I first saw this headline:

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David Sirota

"V" - The Right's New Favorite TV Show, Or Inadvertent Proof of The Ubiquity of The Right's Fables?

I thought, "Geez David Sirota, you're getting awfully worked up over a silly sci-fi TV show."

And when I read : Am I crazy or does this preview make the show seem like a not-so-subtle fringe-right-wing criticism of Obama and Obama followers?

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/v---the-rights-new-favori_b_206342.html

I thought "Geez, David Sirota, you're starting to sound as bad as those nuts over at Newsbusters."

Then I watched the preview:

And I thought, "Geez, David Sirota, I owe you an apology. You were right on about this one."

In questioning Obama's citizenship and heritage, conservatives have always portrayed Obama as an alien visitor. They've also constantly implied that behind Obama's friendly veneer are sinister motives - and they seem to believe that while most of the public are gullible fools believing in Obama as a savior, they and their tea-party protestors see the "real truth" of those motives.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/v---the-rights-new-favori_b_206342.html

Read the whole article here.

"V" premiers tonight on ABC, check it out and see if David Sirota wasn't right.

I Don't See How This Can Not Be A Good Thing.

from politico:

Conservatives to challenge

a dozen GOP candidates

In what could be a nightmare scenario for Republican Party officials, conservative activists are gearing up to challenge leading GOP candidates in more than a dozen key House and Senate races in 2010. Conservatives and tea party activists had already set their sights on some of the GOP’s top Senate recruits. . . But their success in Tuesday’s upstate New York special election, where grass-roots efforts pushed GOP nominee Dede Scozzafava to drop out of the race and helped Conservative Party nominee Doug Hoffman surge into the lead on the eve of Election Day, has generated more money and enthusiasm than organizers ever imagined.

God, I hope Hoffman wins. Not because I like Doug Hoffman. I don't know anything about Doug Hoffman, but if he's got the support of the tea-baggers, I assume he's a nut or a neanderthal. *

No, I hope he wins so that the super-right-wing nutsos might be emboldened to abandon the Republican Party and form their own gun-nut/anti-science/pro-war/pro-Israel (but anti-Jew) party.

I don't see any bad scenario arising from that. At the least, the right gets splintered into two weaker parties.

At best, the split on the right enables progressive Democrats to split off from the DLC "New Democrats." Maybe the next time a seriously progressive candidate like Ralph nader (But not Ralph Nader) the conventional wisdom won't be that you can't vote for him because you'll be handing the election to the Republicans.

Ideally, I would love to see at least a couple different parties on the left, a couple on the right, and a couple in the middle. Wouldn't it be nice to have actual choices in the election booth? Instead of having to "hold your nose and vote for Kerry because at least he isn't Bush." I would love to have to decide between, say, a Green Party candidate, a Labor Party candidate, and a progressive Democrat without worrying about giving an automatic victory to the Right because they're trying to decide whether to vote for the Old Testament Party, the Ghost of Reagan Party and the Shoot 'em All Party.

“I would say it’s the tip of the spear,” said Dick Armey, the former GOP House majority leader who now serves as chairman of FreedomWorks, an organization that has been closely aligned with the tea party movement. “We are the biggest source of energy in American politics today.”

God, that's a depressing thought. especially since he's probably right. The kooks seem to have an inexhaustible energy and certainly no shortage of funding.

“What you’re going to see,” said Armey, “is moderates and conservatives across the country in primaries.” Party strategists worry that well-funded, well-organized challenges from the right could force Republicans to exhaust precious resources on messy primary fights — or force moderate candidates to adopt more strident positions early on that could haunt them during the final months of the campaign.

So how could that be a bad thing?

The next race on which to keep an eye is the Republican Senatorial Primary in Florida. Tea-bagger favorite Marco Rubio is mounting a challenge to the presumptive nominee, Charlie Crist.

Rubio has won nearly a dozen county GOP straw polls across the state and is rapidly becoming a darling of the tea party movement. Everett Wilkinson, an organizer for the Florida Tea Party Patriots, said his group plans to take part in get-out-the-vote activities and other efforts to deny Crist the GOP nomination, despite the fact that Crist leads both Rubio and Rep. Kendrick Meek, the likely Democratic nominee, by a comfortable margin.

*Oh, yeah. Here he is being endorsed by Frankenberry: